Flight Analysis

We have to regroup before we can go, but the feeling that we’re in danger combined with the increasing conviction that we’d be better off away from much of the family has led me to start analyzing more formally the relocation thing mentioned earlier.

One of the things that came up was “shall issue,” which led me to this entry of interest, mainly in that it includes this cool animated GIF.

Based on the most recent year displayed, Alaska and Vermont are the best states, the bulk are now acceptable, and the ones absolutely ruled out by that would be Illinois and Wisconsin.  That’s without reading or more formally looking up details.

We also figure about four hours drive time from here, or really from anyone with whom we’d prefer to maintain a friendly distance.  I should figure out what that rules out offhand, but pretty much anything in New England, if you count not wanting to shovel roofs.

Okay, Google Earth puts New York City just over four hours away.  Albany is about an hour closer.  Syracuse is over 5 and Ithaca (where I once had a remote office of sorts) is over 6.  Parts of New York, then, though upstate gets you into that shoveling the roof thing in some cases.  Then again, there are worse things.  I’ve thought for many years that Montana or Idaho might be nice.

Looks like we’ve ruled out seven states and parts of one, strictly speaking.  More, if we rule out “may issue” states.

Again, without knowing if the source is reputable or researching further, this page tells us the best states for homeschooling are Texas and Indiana, which I already knew, Alaska, Idaho, Illinois, Michigan, Missouri, New Jersey and Oklahoma.

The worst are supposed to be Massachusetts, Maine, Minnesota, New York, North Dakota, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Utah, Vermont, Washington, and West Virginia.  Basically if you have to ask permission to educate your kids, which is the way it works here, even though lots of people do it and there doesn’t seem to be a big deal - but that depends on school district, then it’s not acceptable.

So wow, I could start a map based on all that.  Finer points, sure, but it’d get the ball rolling.

I did a map then thought to look for tax comparisons, which for the moment are coming from the 2007 listing here.  I messed up by starting with state burden and then switching to overall burden.  The distinctions can be small enough that this is less important than some things.

So here’s the map so far.  Brown states are ruled out.  Green states score best.  I’d tend to rule out Alaska, much as I’d love to visit.  Purple states were good for homeschooling and shall issue, but without the added benefit of being in the lowest of the low tax states (well, the lowest 20).  Conversely, blue ones came up good for taxes but didn’t fall on the best or worst home schooling lists.  The mustard yellow states were in the worst 20 for tax burden, but otherwise didn’t register one way or another.  White/blank didn’t have anything to flag.  Either of those might be acceptable if looked at more closely, with the green, purple and blue shaded states presumably falling in that order of preference based on what I know so far.  This is pretty minimal research, for which I so don’t have time, but it was cathartic or something.  Like a goal setting thing.  By the time moving would be possible, we’d be past the current danger, but other factors won’t have changed.  I’m to the point where instead of it seeming weird to move out of the state, it seems right and inevitable.  Which could change if I get an amazing job here, but hey, worth a look.

Looking at all this, refined from the original post, any thoughts?

Oh, almost forgot the map!  Here it is (click for larger, as usual):


Posted by on 03/04 at 10:44 PM
  1. Nevada and Florida both have no income taxes.  I know Florida has high property taxes like NH, so maybe that’s where the burden is coming from there, but Nevada is mostly supported by the gaming industry.  I doubt that the tax burden is high in individuals living there…

    Posted by rob sama  on  03/05  at  02:48 PM  from 
  2. I’d suggest looking at Central Indiana.  Specifically the eight counties surrounding Indianapolis, but not Indianapolis.

    The tax issues seem to be worse in Marion County (Indianapolis) than in the adjacent counties, and Indianapolis itself seems to be developing big city problems. 

    I was born in Indianapolis, and still live and work here.  I think it is a great city, but have to admit it has some issues it needs to work on.  We’ll be moving to one of the adjacent counties when we buy a house though.

    Indiana is second amendment and home schooling friendly though.  And the legislature is fighting over the property tax issues as we speak.

    Posted by Dave  on  03/06  at  01:57 PM  from  Indianapolis
  3. I forgot to mention that housing here is reasonably priced compared to where you are now, even before the property tax mess gets resolved.

    Posted by Dave  on  03/06  at  02:07 PM  from  Indianapolis
  4. Hmm… Texas is Green… Houston is in the middle between families… You would be near a cousin… And Deb already has a family she is friends with out there that have kids about the same ages as yours…

    Hmm......

    Posted by  on  03/06  at  08:33 PM  from  Houston
  5. I just thought of this today.  Are you taking in to account cost of living in this?  For example taxes might be higher in Ohio, But might not be as much of a factor when you consider that rent will be $500 to $1000 cheaper per month, Or that a house will cost you $150,000 to $200,000 less then in Ma?
    (These numbers are just rough estimates by me and could be complete BS!)

    Posted by Wayne  on  03/14  at  09:26 PM  from  Ohio
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